Post by Daikari princess♥ on May 13, 2010 1:07:55 GMT -5
Beginning of episode, Takeru walks up behind Hikari and she turns around and looks all flustered.. Many people use this as evidence, because in the english, it seems like Hikari is blushing due to Takeru.. HOWEVER! In the Japanese version, when Hikari whips around she calls out "Onii-chan!"
Hmm.. Well, unless you people think Hikari is into incest, I'd say that is certainly NOT a point for Takari, considering she calls him her brother... o.O;
Later in the episode, many people use as evidence the fact that when Takeru sees Hikari start to disappear he leaps from his seat and yells out her name - this is in the Japanese, too, obviously... BUT! Wait a sec! How is THAT evidence? If you saw a person in your class, anyone at all in your class, start to disappear, wouldn't YOU jump out of your seat and yell out to them in a panic? I know I sure as hell would!
Another thing used as evidence from this episode is the fact Takeru goes off during the break and looks for Hikari.. Well.. I gotta say, that isn't exactally evidence... I mean, if a person you knew, even a little bit, started to disappear in class, wouldn't you go looking for them, too? Wouldn't you want to find them and ask them what exactally was going on? Besides, even if he hadn't have seen her disappearing, which he had, don't you think he would have wanted to check up on her? She IS his bestfriend, after all.. There is nothing romantic about that.. o.O;
Continuing onward, when Takeru finds Hikari...
Well, this scene, in general, is used as evidence by Takari fans, which is rather amusing... In the dub Takeru goes on a speel about how he cares about her and blah blah.. WELL! Here is what goes on in the Japanese version..
Hikari starts talking about how she doesn't know if she can fend off the darkness without Taichi and how she needs Taichi.. She says if she is summoned by the ocean again, she may cease to exist in the real world... And then Takeru gets all annoyed and tells her she doesn't have to rely on only Taichi. He then gets a bit embarrassed by his outburst (as would ANY Japanese guy) (although I have to add, the blush marks in the english version appear to have been ADDED because they weren't there in the Japanese) and then he very slowly walks away... She doesn't say anything, doesn't ask him not to go, AND she doesn't go after him. Ookkayy... This is used as couple evidence WHY?! Don't you think any of her friends would have said that if they had found her first? I know I have said similar things to friends who try to keep their sadness hidden away due to being afraid to trust people. To be bestfriends with a person who obviously doesn't trust you would be frusterating.. This isn't a couple hint at all! To the contrary, this simply proves Hikari lacks trust in everyone, INCLUDING Takeru!
Another thing, many people use Takeru getting worried when he finds out about Hikari's disappearance as evidence.. Well, I'd like to add that, Daisuke gets JUST as worried as Takeru does when Tailmon tells them she is gone. As do all of the other chosen children, obviously! She is their friend, after all!
Another thing, many people think that Takeru looking for Hikari at the ocean was a big couple hint, but it really isn't one at all.. The only reason he goes is because during their earlier talk she says that she is being summoned to the ocean.. That's a no brainer! Where else would he look? And it isn't as if he knows because it was a big secret, he just happened to be the first to find her earlier on.. Besides, he obviously wasn't THAT worried about her earlier.. If he was, he wouldn't have left her on her own!
Middle of the epi, not much to say.. Goes back and forth between Dai and Takeru being worried and trying to find Hikari in their own way... Lotsa weird, freaky stuff.. Geeze, I can't believe this is the same episode o.O;...
Moving on some more, before Takeru makes it into the other world, Hikari calls out for Taichi, Tailmon and then Takeru. I suppose you might use that as evidence, although that isn't much proof. She obviously thinks of him on the same level as her brother, and again, they are bestfriends, so it is normal to call out for such a person. Esepcially since he is the last person she saw in the real world.. Anyhow, after she calls out for help, Tailmon, Takeru and Patamon find her and go into the other world with her. Again, this isn't really surprising, as Takeru is ON the beach.. Again, the only reason being because she told him the ocean was calling to her... ^^; Not like he was drawn to her or anything, if someone tells you they are drawn to the beach and they disappear, unless you are an idiot, the first place you search is definatly going to be the beach...
Anyhow...
After getting to the other world, I need to firstly say that after Takeru gets there and says his hello to Hikari from afar, he and Patamon go after the evil Digimon and completely ignore Hikari... Yah.. He is so in love with her that he ignores her.. Aww... How sweet...? o.O;
After the battle he takes notice of her - After the creepy shadow-thingys grab on to her and say they want her to be their wife.. THEN he comes over and tells them to let her go! ^^; Wow.. Better late than never, Takeru-san! And better yet, HE doesn't save her from them! Angewomon does! By shooting an arrow at them! XD! And so they leave...
And then is the "big Takari moment!" when Takeru puts his hand on her shoulder... AFTER the enemy is driven away by Angewomon... Here's how it went:
Hikari: "I want to go home..."
Takeru walks over to her and puts his hand on her shoulder: "Let's go home. I came to get you."
Wooowww! That is really great evidence o.O;! Or how about not... That is just friendship showing between them! If they were really interested in each other it would have been him running over and hugging her and sobbing and telling her how sorry he was for not being there for her earlier! Sheesh... >>; Some evidence! Oh, and don't you think if this was such a romantic thing that he would have taken her home on Pegasmon? If they are such a "couple" why didn't Hikari ride home with him? It'd be a lot more convenient than her being carried by Angewomon, don't you think? But still, she goes home seperate from him with Angewomon.. Again, not very romantic to me! o.O; Also, I'd like to note that the whole "I care about you" "I care about you, too, TK!" was ADDED by the American translators.. This was NOT said in the Japanese! As I had heard previously, the whole going home scene is narrated by another person.. AND the person doesn't say a word about either Hikari, Takeru OR a possible relationship between them.. To the contrary, he just talks about the strange place that they were at... Wow guys, that's great evidence! Bravo! o.O
(Here is the real deal about the dark ocean episode and how Takeru and Hikari are friends and nothing more.)
Hmm.. Well, unless you people think Hikari is into incest, I'd say that is certainly NOT a point for Takari, considering she calls him her brother... o.O;
Later in the episode, many people use as evidence the fact that when Takeru sees Hikari start to disappear he leaps from his seat and yells out her name - this is in the Japanese, too, obviously... BUT! Wait a sec! How is THAT evidence? If you saw a person in your class, anyone at all in your class, start to disappear, wouldn't YOU jump out of your seat and yell out to them in a panic? I know I sure as hell would!
Another thing used as evidence from this episode is the fact Takeru goes off during the break and looks for Hikari.. Well.. I gotta say, that isn't exactally evidence... I mean, if a person you knew, even a little bit, started to disappear in class, wouldn't you go looking for them, too? Wouldn't you want to find them and ask them what exactally was going on? Besides, even if he hadn't have seen her disappearing, which he had, don't you think he would have wanted to check up on her? She IS his bestfriend, after all.. There is nothing romantic about that.. o.O;
Continuing onward, when Takeru finds Hikari...
Well, this scene, in general, is used as evidence by Takari fans, which is rather amusing... In the dub Takeru goes on a speel about how he cares about her and blah blah.. WELL! Here is what goes on in the Japanese version..
Hikari starts talking about how she doesn't know if she can fend off the darkness without Taichi and how she needs Taichi.. She says if she is summoned by the ocean again, she may cease to exist in the real world... And then Takeru gets all annoyed and tells her she doesn't have to rely on only Taichi. He then gets a bit embarrassed by his outburst (as would ANY Japanese guy) (although I have to add, the blush marks in the english version appear to have been ADDED because they weren't there in the Japanese) and then he very slowly walks away... She doesn't say anything, doesn't ask him not to go, AND she doesn't go after him. Ookkayy... This is used as couple evidence WHY?! Don't you think any of her friends would have said that if they had found her first? I know I have said similar things to friends who try to keep their sadness hidden away due to being afraid to trust people. To be bestfriends with a person who obviously doesn't trust you would be frusterating.. This isn't a couple hint at all! To the contrary, this simply proves Hikari lacks trust in everyone, INCLUDING Takeru!
Another thing, many people use Takeru getting worried when he finds out about Hikari's disappearance as evidence.. Well, I'd like to add that, Daisuke gets JUST as worried as Takeru does when Tailmon tells them she is gone. As do all of the other chosen children, obviously! She is their friend, after all!
Another thing, many people think that Takeru looking for Hikari at the ocean was a big couple hint, but it really isn't one at all.. The only reason he goes is because during their earlier talk she says that she is being summoned to the ocean.. That's a no brainer! Where else would he look? And it isn't as if he knows because it was a big secret, he just happened to be the first to find her earlier on.. Besides, he obviously wasn't THAT worried about her earlier.. If he was, he wouldn't have left her on her own!
Middle of the epi, not much to say.. Goes back and forth between Dai and Takeru being worried and trying to find Hikari in their own way... Lotsa weird, freaky stuff.. Geeze, I can't believe this is the same episode o.O;...
Moving on some more, before Takeru makes it into the other world, Hikari calls out for Taichi, Tailmon and then Takeru. I suppose you might use that as evidence, although that isn't much proof. She obviously thinks of him on the same level as her brother, and again, they are bestfriends, so it is normal to call out for such a person. Esepcially since he is the last person she saw in the real world.. Anyhow, after she calls out for help, Tailmon, Takeru and Patamon find her and go into the other world with her. Again, this isn't really surprising, as Takeru is ON the beach.. Again, the only reason being because she told him the ocean was calling to her... ^^; Not like he was drawn to her or anything, if someone tells you they are drawn to the beach and they disappear, unless you are an idiot, the first place you search is definatly going to be the beach...
Anyhow...
After getting to the other world, I need to firstly say that after Takeru gets there and says his hello to Hikari from afar, he and Patamon go after the evil Digimon and completely ignore Hikari... Yah.. He is so in love with her that he ignores her.. Aww... How sweet...? o.O;
After the battle he takes notice of her - After the creepy shadow-thingys grab on to her and say they want her to be their wife.. THEN he comes over and tells them to let her go! ^^; Wow.. Better late than never, Takeru-san! And better yet, HE doesn't save her from them! Angewomon does! By shooting an arrow at them! XD! And so they leave...
And then is the "big Takari moment!" when Takeru puts his hand on her shoulder... AFTER the enemy is driven away by Angewomon... Here's how it went:
Hikari: "I want to go home..."
Takeru walks over to her and puts his hand on her shoulder: "Let's go home. I came to get you."
Wooowww! That is really great evidence o.O;! Or how about not... That is just friendship showing between them! If they were really interested in each other it would have been him running over and hugging her and sobbing and telling her how sorry he was for not being there for her earlier! Sheesh... >>; Some evidence! Oh, and don't you think if this was such a romantic thing that he would have taken her home on Pegasmon? If they are such a "couple" why didn't Hikari ride home with him? It'd be a lot more convenient than her being carried by Angewomon, don't you think? But still, she goes home seperate from him with Angewomon.. Again, not very romantic to me! o.O; Also, I'd like to note that the whole "I care about you" "I care about you, too, TK!" was ADDED by the American translators.. This was NOT said in the Japanese! As I had heard previously, the whole going home scene is narrated by another person.. AND the person doesn't say a word about either Hikari, Takeru OR a possible relationship between them.. To the contrary, he just talks about the strange place that they were at... Wow guys, that's great evidence! Bravo! o.O
(Here is the real deal about the dark ocean episode and how Takeru and Hikari are friends and nothing more.)