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Post by Leah Motomiya on Aug 25, 2010 18:56:17 GMT -5
No it doesnt but I noticed T.K. and Cody were together a lot more.
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Post by Magnamon on Aug 25, 2010 18:57:33 GMT -5
well that's what they did with the DNA digivolution thing
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Post by Leah Motomiya on Aug 25, 2010 18:58:26 GMT -5
Still the point still stands
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Post by digitalguardian12 on Aug 26, 2010 4:45:01 GMT -5
I disagree there actually because its my personal belief because I have seen it done before where girls usually tease a guy they like by flirting just to see if the guy really likes them trust me I'm a girl I know
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Post by Magnamon on Aug 26, 2010 19:44:29 GMT -5
true and you're right and I think it was rather stupid
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Post by Daikari princess♥ on Oct 3, 2010 6:40:19 GMT -5
Bringing this place back on topic Kari/Hikari has never been one of my favourite characters. I liked all the female Chosen of 01/02 except Hikari mostly 02 Hikari, I liked her character more in 01.
Before tomatoes get thrown at me for saying I dislike Hikari (-_-) let me explain why. First I hated her because the dub turned her into a girl who plays with her friend's feelings, thinks she's hot and some other stuff. But even in the original 02 I dislike her. Reason being to put it bluntly she's useless. No offence to any of her fans but name one time she didn't need someone to save her. Name one time she didnt depend on Gatomon or her brother or even Takeru.
Name one time she showed some spine in terms of the fact of fighting, took a step forward on her own without someone grabbing her by the hand and leading her this is 02 Kari by the way. At least in 01 she helped those Numemon, gave her brother's digimon a boost to digivolve, cheered on her partner to bash up LadyDevimon and in my opinion was a lot braver.
In 02 however it was always "Gatomon, help me" or "I'm not as strong as my brother" or "The darkness is too strong for me" I mean I say please grow some spine will you? Heck, you would have thought the first adventure would have made Hikari braver. Miyako showed more spine than her, after all she did hit LadyDevimon with that surfboard thingo didn't she? Yes it was reckless but Hikari didn't do anything, yes Miyako nearly got killed but think of it if she hadn't done anything then Sylphimon might have ended as sushi by LadyDevimon and that poor kid would be dead. O.O
Though Miyako and Gatomon did help Hikari fight the darkness and she did manage to resist mostly after that but the point is she still kind of remained the one who needed to rely on others. She relied a lot on Takeru in the beginning then moved to rely on Miyako. Also a lot of fans say, Takari and Daikari that Takeru and Taichi always protected Hikari. I get it for Taichi in 01 to protect Hikari considering she was only eight years old but in 02 Hikari should be a little at least a little more self reliant. So in my opinion and this is mainly for some whiny Daikari fans (not mwha of course) complaining that Takari fans show Hikari as a damsel in distress sorry to burst your bubble but no matter who she's with she'll always be a damsel in distress if your setting your fanfic during the second season.
By the way feel free to chew me out on these points but in a polite manner cause this is just my opinion on Hikari's character.
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Post by Magnamon on Oct 3, 2010 9:12:30 GMT -5
hrm... you have a point I think that was the creator's fault I think that they turned her and Daisuke and Takeru into your typial anime love triangle which I hated
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Post by Daikari princess♥ on Oct 4, 2010 18:05:48 GMT -5
Magna, I wasn't talking about the couple. I was talking in general for Hikari's character I mean in 01 for an eight year old she was pretty brave even willing to continue to fight when she was sick and all but in the second season she was practically screaming "I'm a damsel in distress someone save me" no offence to her fans. Heck even Mimi wasnt like that.
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Post by Magnamon on Oct 8, 2010 17:12:41 GMT -5
Touche' I can't help but agree
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Post by Empress of Jyoumi on Oct 13, 2010 5:38:50 GMT -5
Bringing this place back on topic Kari/Hikari has never been one of my favourite characters. I liked all the female Chosen of 01/02 except Hikari mostly 02 Hikari, I liked her character more in 01. Before tomatoes get thrown at me for saying I dislike Hikari (-_-) let me explain why. First I hated her because the dub turned her into a girl who plays with her friend's feelings, thinks she's hot and some other stuff. But even in the original 02 I dislike her. Reason being to put it bluntly she's useless. No offence to any of her fans but name one time she didn't need someone to save her. Name one time she didnt depend on Gatomon or her brother or even Takeru. Name one time she showed some spine in terms of the fact of fighting, took a step forward on her own without someone grabbing her by the hand and leading her this is 02 Kari by the way. At least in 01 she helped those Numemon, gave her brother's digimon a boost to digivolve, cheered on her partner to bash up LadyDevimon and in my opinion was a lot braver. In 02 however it was always "Gatomon, help me" or "I'm not as strong as my brother" or "The darkness is too strong for me" I mean I say please grow some spine will you? Heck, you would have thought the first adventure would have made Hikari braver. Miyako showed more spine than her, after all she did hit LadyDevimon with that surfboard thingo didn't she? Yes it was reckless but Hikari didn't do anything, yes Miyako nearly got killed but think of it if she hadn't done anything then Sylphimon might have ended as sushi by LadyDevimon and that poor kid would be dead. O.O Though Miyako and Gatomon did help Hikari fight the darkness and she did manage to resist mostly after that but the point is she still kind of remained the one who needed to rely on others. She relied a lot on Takeru in the beginning then moved to rely on Miyako. Also a lot of fans say, Takari and Daikari that Takeru and Taichi always protected Hikari. I get it for Taichi in 01 to protect Hikari considering she was only eight years old but in 02 Hikari should be a little at least a little more self reliant. So in my opinion and this is mainly for some whiny Daikari fans (not mwha of course) complaining that Takari fans show Hikari as a damsel in distress sorry to burst your bubble but no matter who she's with she'll always be a damsel in distress if your setting your fanfic during the second season. By the way feel free to chew me out on these points but in a polite manner cause this is just my opinion on Hikari's character. Who are you and what have you done with our Soraya? -_- Seriously all those points are so true and you actually sounded smart why have people not started fainting yet? Jokes aside yes Hikari was considered quite weak in 02 but thats why we have fanfics we can actually show her resisting another call from Dragomon or actually showing some spine against enemies.
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Post by Magnamon on Oct 13, 2010 7:43:33 GMT -5
which is a good thing I prefered the one who yelled at the bad guys
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Post by Digidestined of Trust on Oct 13, 2010 12:10:17 GMT -5
This is all very true. However I think it's a mix of she's grown up a little bit. Little kids somehow seem to have the brave gene in them but then realize later on when things get tough, in her situation the darkness because she's light, that's kind of tough having to fight the darkness the most when you're the light. Kari's the light and now it's far tougher for her to handle it alone. She still cares about others and is ready to fight and steps up in times of distress. It's why T.K.'s there to help her and yes Davis too.
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Post by Magnamon on Oct 13, 2010 12:16:38 GMT -5
some people(like Davis and Tai) don't outgrow the brave gene
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Post by Digidestined of Trust on Oct 13, 2010 13:49:22 GMT -5
That's true Though they still have fears of something. Kari's not exempt
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Post by Daikari princess♥ on Oct 13, 2010 17:18:59 GMT -5
Okay Magna I don't mean to prove you wrong I really don't but you have Tai and Davis really screwed up in your mind. They both have things they are afraid of. Tai's fear is for his sister, and Agumon and failing the people he cares about. If something happens to anyone he cares about he will feel that he failed. This is clearly seen when he feels he fails Sora when Datamon kidnaps her. Davis's greatest fear is losing his friends and those he cares about as well but that's cause to him friendship is very important so basically the Digidestined are a family to him and he cares for them all deeply. Returning to Kari her fear is the darkness itself and the fact that she feels she's not strong enough. But if we look in depth at the reasoning behind that it's because she's always had someone saving her if she were put in a situation where no one was there to help her minus Gatomon then she would grow a spine and learn how to fight. And Amna's right that's what fanfiction is for. Now looking to the other characters T.K.'s fear I believe is losing Patamon and his older brother. Some people might disagree and say it's losing his family but it's not because his family is already divorced and we can say that affected him badly it's not a fear thats why I called it a fear of him losing his older brother because T.K. would never want to lose contact with Matt no matter what. Yolei, I think her fear is being rejected for who she is. I think as if we have seen Yolei is quite sincere never afraid to say what's on her mind but I feel sometimes she fears that people will leave her because she's too straightforward. This in my opinion is clearly seen when she feels Kari doesnt like her in the episode where Sylphimon debuts, in the beginning of that episode Yolei even comments that 'Her and Kari don't understand one another' of course that changes later on but still. Cody, I think his main fear is injustice. I know most of you are thinking WTH? Well, think about it Cody's father died protecting the life of another. Cody hates anyone being treated fairly and begins to doubt himself when he is unable to stop it. Which is seen in the episode he couldn't help save Noriko from Oikawa of course no one else could either but that's besides the point. Ken, his greatest fear is loneliness but at the same time he feels he deserves to be alone for the sins he commited as the emperor. But he does fear loneliness he feels really alone when Wormmon dies and is really grateful when Davis forgives him and calls him a friend (and eventually the others too). Okay that does not no more Chai for me it motivates me too much Also I know this probably isnt the right section to go into all the characters but it's only brief and it will help anyone who wants to focus on the fears of each of the characters.
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